Short hitter compared to the average WRXer wrong? The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. [/color] Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. The title would be just as useful as well. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. The driver is almost always the most talked about golf club in everyone's bag. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. Its important for me to have a 58 degree that works first and foremost in a bunker and then to chip with, because I use my 52 to chip with more often than not as I like to see the ball on the ground and rolling towards the hole so it has a chance of dropping in. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Learn how your comment data is processed. Have a look at his driver and 6 <> I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] I hit the same. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Ball Speed 176.38 PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Almost every post I read on the internet the guys say they are swinging 125 mph. Titleist 906F4 13.5* Fuji Rombax 8Z08 X endobj The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Top 50 Player Guide. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. However the pros have what is called a stock yardage for their irons, which equates essentially to the average distance they will hit a full shot with each iron swinging normally. Dont think they ever release that stuff. You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. I think those numbers are a little high. You could hear the thump and it was relentless in its consistency. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. You can post now and register later. Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? I ultimately decided on the Tour AD DI 6X as a better choice. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. Sorry for the ramble. Maybe for one swing he got there. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade). I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Shaft: Aldila NV, 7-wood: Callaway Big Bertha Very interesting but sort of depressing article. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Too many people walking around either who hit one drive at 300 a round and the rest slice 100 yards that only go 200 straight trying to tell people how great they are at golf when in reality they take like 6 mulligans a round or guys that are actually really good think that they are the norm when in reality they are a small minority and golf would not even exist if it were not for guys like me . Top 50 Pros Analysis. Going the Distance? Different pros however clearly hit their irons different distances but in the table below we have listed the stock yardages of some of the top pros, including Rory McIlroy, Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas and Bryson DeChambeau, to let you see how they compare against the average. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Am I as good as tour pro? Ball Speed- 176.38 average, 179.45 high The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. Add Driving Distance by Analyzing the Worlds Longest Driver! WebReport PP - Read online for free. It was not until I got together with almost every other golfer played and realized most like as in 90% were just like me which was a work in progress. Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, 5-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). What a great read with invaluable data and information. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho, M2, maybe It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. What about the balls we use. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. [/quote] My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . This put him near the bottom of the pack. I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. link to What Irons Do the Pros Use? Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. I don't measure my driver distance either. The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. DShawn Johnson Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. Either way I don't care. Club head speed is around 90 MPH giving me a distance of 214 yrds. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) Mack Made Custom Blade. Distance to Apex 195.9 Its a whole different story. Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. [/quote] Do you suppose my distance is bs? Spin Rate 2,645.8 [/quote] Shafts: Project X 125 6.5 (46), Project X 120 6.0 (52-60), Putter: Scotty Cameron 009 The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. 46 to 54 degree heads have narrower and deeper grooves as these are used more in fuller shots with greater swing/ball speed. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Ball Speed 176.38 The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. [/quote] Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. I recently had my swing analyzed and would like to share the results so that maybe someone could explain this in simpler terms. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? [/quote] show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Maybe 126 or 127. What Irons Do the Pros Use? 2 vs 3 vs 4 Hybrid Distances, How Far Should I Hit My Irons? And this is where taking the TrackMan Combine and going through a Find Your Distance session is so valuable. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. More photos from the event here. Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Ever found a yardage you like? WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. Imagine throwing darts as the commentary teams say on television. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. Thanks. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] The facts are in front of us at instructors, now we must help convey your points to the masses. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. Dont Waste Your Money, Should Your Wedges Match Your Irons? Obviously not. [/quote] The longest player hits it 320 yards I have played golf for 22 years. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. [/quote] Either way I don't care. Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. It's not the length that makes a pro. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ratio - 1.48[/background][/size][/color] Also, the dispersion for misses will be much wider for the AMA than the professional. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Couldn't of said it any better myself. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Through such initiatives as the Justin Thomas Youth of the Year Leadership Academy with the Boys & Girls Club of Kentuckiana, USA Cares and the First Tee, Justin is committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. It's good for some laughs. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. [/quote] I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. All rights reserved. There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. [quote name='J.W.' Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. No question - 100%. WebJon Rahm TrackMan Numbers. President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Especially the average driving distance data. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] That smash factor surprises me a bit. Your link has been automatically embedded. Pasted as rich text. I can't seem to find them. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. I would have guessed #1 because of the "low spin" mantra, even though the launch is a touch low. Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. I don't measure my driver distance. PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 the TrackMan numbers below. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. Am I as good as tour pro? 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Simmer down, all. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. Following 3 Trackman lessons and 4 Trackman practice sessions (and my own research) i have moved my swing path nearly 5 degree in to out. Distance to Apex 195.9 I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. Hi Gerry. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] [/quote] In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Thomas, who was born and raised in Goshen, KY, played collegiate golf for the Alabama Crimson Tide. also his AoD on the stinger. Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high me too! I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. I need to know few things before buying. What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! Skill Triumphs Over All! Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. The plan is to include this type of information within TrackMan University in the future, but that is likely many months away at this point. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? You cannot paste images directly. The questions you ask are great questions, but unfortunately that data is not readily available. I think you wish you hit it further. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] 712u 3 Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. On the longest drive, the projected distance(without the slice) was 332 yards. These high-level numbers of course dont always tell the whole story as the pros like us are faced with an infinite variety of golf shots which dont always mean they are hitting each club as far as they possibly can for every shot. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Display as a link instead, Lj\gUk':Q9d P\Ko?#sU;:MRk;'FTz![]wJQRL/"&Xp]q%F"S4y_fY;<5PemA,YosVrs>l6:cc I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Ha, okay. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. Distance is great. As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance.

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